Subject: Chi ?
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 00:31:16 +0200
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CHI AVEVA SCRITTO NEL 1983 IN ITALIA CHE I TALIBANS CHE ERANO:
- Combattenti per la liberta'
- Difensori dell'Islam
- I migliori rappresentanti del popolo afgano
CHI INVIERA' LA SOLUZIONE ESATTA RICEVERA' RICCHI PREMI !!
PER NON DIMENTICARE, VISITATE IL NOSTRO SITO !!
Centro di Documentazione Storica "Pietro Secchia"
Foglio politico telematico "L'ORA dei Comunisti" - Per la ricostruzione
del P.C.I. - http://village.flashnet.it/users/fn028394
---
*** BUSHLADEN
> http://emperors-clothes.com/news/bushladen.htm
BUSHLADEN
by Jared Israel [8 October 2001]
Includes report from the 'Wall Street Journal'
*** EX RESPONSABILE USA PER LA SICUREZZA NAZIONALE AMMETTE:
L'ISLAMISMO AFGANO E' MADE-IN-USA
> http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/brz.htm
Ex- National Security Chief Brzezinski Admits:
Afghan Islamism Was Made in Washington
Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's
National Security Adviser in 'Le Nouvel Observateur' (France),
Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76 (Translated by Bill Blum)
*** UNA CREAZIONE DI NOME OSAMA
> http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/creat.htm
The creation called Osama
By Shamsul Islam
Reprinted from 'The Hindu' (India) September 27, 2001
[Posted 27 September 2001]
*** BUSH-BINLADEN CONNECTION
> http://emperors-clothes.com/news/jw.htm
Judicial Watch Condemns Bush-Binladin Group Connection
Comment by Jared Israel [posted 6 October 2001]
---
> http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/yemen/Story/0,2763,18113,00.html.
The Guardian (UK)
Frankenstein the CIA created
Mujahideen trained and funded by the US are among its
deadliest foes, reports Jason Burke in Peshawar
Sunday January 17, 1999
When Clement Rodney Hampton-el, a hospital technician
from Brooklyn, New Jersey, returned home from the war
in Afghanistan in 1989, he told friends his only
desire was to return. Though he had been wounded in
the arm and leg by a Russian shell, he said he had
failed. He had not achieved martyrdom in the name of
Islam.
So he found a different theatre for his holy war and
achieved a different sort of martyrdom. Three years
ago, he was convicted of planning a series of massive
explosions in Manhattan and sentenced to 35 years in
prison.
Hampton-el was described by prosecutors as a skilled
bomb-maker. It was hardly surprising. In Afghanistan
he fought with the Hezb-i-Islami group of mujahideen,
whose training and weaponry were mainly supplied by
the CIA.
He was not alone. American officials estimate that,
from 1985 to 1992, 12,500 foreigners were trained in
bomb-making, sabotage and urban guerrilla warfare in
Afghan camps the CIA helped to set up.
Since the fall of the Soviet puppet government in
1992, another 2,500 are believed to have passed
through the camps. They are now run by an assortment
of Islamic extremists, including Osama bin Laden, the
world's most wanted terrorist.
Bin Laden arrived in Afghanistan from Saudi Arabia in
1979, aged 22. Though he saw a considerable amount of
combat - around the eastern city of Jalalabad in March
1989 and, earlier, around the border town of Khost -
his speciality was logistics.
>From his base in the Pakistani city of Peshawar, he
used his experience of the construction trade, and his
money, to build a series of bases where the mujahideen
could be trained by their Pakistani, American and, if
some recent press reports are to be believed, British
advisers.
One of the camps bin Laden built, known as Al-Badr,
was the target of the American missile strikes against
him last summer. Now it is used by
Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, a Pakistan-based organisation
that trains volunteers to fight in Kashmir.
Some of their recruits kidnapped and almost certainly
killed a group of Western hostages a few years ago.
The bases are still full of new volunteers, many
Pakistanis. Most of those who were killed in last
August's strikes were Pakistani.
A Harkut-ul-Mujahideen official said last week that it
had Germans and Britons fighting for the cause, as
well as Egyptians, Palestinians and Saudis. Muslims
from the West as well as from the Middle East and
North Africa are regularly stopped by Pakistani police
on the road up the Khyber Pass heading for the camps.
Hundreds get through. Afghan veterans have now joined
bin Laden's al-Qaeda group.
Some have returned to former battlegrounds, like the
university-educated Dr Ayman al-Zawahiri, a key figure
in the Egyptian al-Jihad terrorist group. Al-Zawahiri
ran his own operation during the Afghan war, bringing
in and training volunteers from the Middle East. Some
of the $500 million the CIA poured into Afghanistan
reached his group. Al-Zawahiri has become a close aide
of bin Laden and has now returned to Afghanistan to
work with him. His al-Jihad group has been linked to
the Yemeni kidnappers.
One Saudi journalist who interviewed bin Laden in 1989
remembers three of his close associates going under
the names of Abu Mohammed, Abu Hafz and Abu Ahmed. All
three fought with bin Laden in the early Eighties,
travelled with him to the Sudan and have come back to
Afghanistan. Afghan veterans, believed to include men
who fought the Americans in Somalia, have also
returned.
Other members of al-Quaeda remain overseas. Afghan
veterans now linked to bin Laden have been traced by
investigators to Pakistan, East Africa, Albania,
Chechnya, Algeria, France, the US and Britain.
At least one of the kidnappers in Yemen was reported
to have fought in Afghanistan and to be linked to
al-Quaeda. Despite reports that bin Laden was
effectively funded by the Americans, it is impossible
to gauge how much American aid he received. He was not
a major figure in the Afghan war. Most American
weapons, including Stinger anti-aircraft missiles,
were channelled by the Pakistanis to the Hezb-i-Islami
faction of the mujahideen led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.
Bin Laden was only loosely connected with the group,
serving under another Hezb-i-Islami commander known as
Engineer Machmud. However, bin Laden's Office of
Services, set up to recruit overseas for the war,
received some US cash.
But according to one American official, concentrating
on bin Laden is a mistake. 'The point is not the
individuals,' he said last week. 'The point is that we
created a whole cadre of trained and motivated people
who turned against us. It's a classic Frankenstein's
monster situation.'
Others point out that the military contribution of the
'Arabs', as the overseas volunteers were known, was
relatively small. 'The fighting was done by the
Afghans and most of them went back to their fields
when Kabul fell to the mujahideen,' said Kamaal Khan,
a Pakistani defence analyst. 'Ironically, the bulk of
American aid went to the least effective fighters, who
turned most strongly to bite the hand that fed them.'
---
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Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 00:31:16 +0200
From: p.stilan@...
CHI AVEVA SCRITTO NEL 1983 IN ITALIA CHE I TALIBANS CHE ERANO:
- Combattenti per la liberta'
- Difensori dell'Islam
- I migliori rappresentanti del popolo afgano
CHI INVIERA' LA SOLUZIONE ESATTA RICEVERA' RICCHI PREMI !!
PER NON DIMENTICARE, VISITATE IL NOSTRO SITO !!
Centro di Documentazione Storica "Pietro Secchia"
Foglio politico telematico "L'ORA dei Comunisti" - Per la ricostruzione
del P.C.I. - http://village.flashnet.it/users/fn028394
---
*** BUSHLADEN
> http://emperors-clothes.com/news/bushladen.htm
BUSHLADEN
by Jared Israel [8 October 2001]
Includes report from the 'Wall Street Journal'
*** EX RESPONSABILE USA PER LA SICUREZZA NAZIONALE AMMETTE:
L'ISLAMISMO AFGANO E' MADE-IN-USA
> http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/brz.htm
Ex- National Security Chief Brzezinski Admits:
Afghan Islamism Was Made in Washington
Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Jimmy Carter's
National Security Adviser in 'Le Nouvel Observateur' (France),
Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76 (Translated by Bill Blum)
*** UNA CREAZIONE DI NOME OSAMA
> http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/creat.htm
The creation called Osama
By Shamsul Islam
Reprinted from 'The Hindu' (India) September 27, 2001
[Posted 27 September 2001]
*** BUSH-BINLADEN CONNECTION
> http://emperors-clothes.com/news/jw.htm
Judicial Watch Condemns Bush-Binladin Group Connection
Comment by Jared Israel [posted 6 October 2001]
---
> http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/yemen/Story/0,2763,18113,00.html.
The Guardian (UK)
Frankenstein the CIA created
Mujahideen trained and funded by the US are among its
deadliest foes, reports Jason Burke in Peshawar
Sunday January 17, 1999
When Clement Rodney Hampton-el, a hospital technician
from Brooklyn, New Jersey, returned home from the war
in Afghanistan in 1989, he told friends his only
desire was to return. Though he had been wounded in
the arm and leg by a Russian shell, he said he had
failed. He had not achieved martyrdom in the name of
Islam.
So he found a different theatre for his holy war and
achieved a different sort of martyrdom. Three years
ago, he was convicted of planning a series of massive
explosions in Manhattan and sentenced to 35 years in
prison.
Hampton-el was described by prosecutors as a skilled
bomb-maker. It was hardly surprising. In Afghanistan
he fought with the Hezb-i-Islami group of mujahideen,
whose training and weaponry were mainly supplied by
the CIA.
He was not alone. American officials estimate that,
from 1985 to 1992, 12,500 foreigners were trained in
bomb-making, sabotage and urban guerrilla warfare in
Afghan camps the CIA helped to set up.
Since the fall of the Soviet puppet government in
1992, another 2,500 are believed to have passed
through the camps. They are now run by an assortment
of Islamic extremists, including Osama bin Laden, the
world's most wanted terrorist.
Bin Laden arrived in Afghanistan from Saudi Arabia in
1979, aged 22. Though he saw a considerable amount of
combat - around the eastern city of Jalalabad in March
1989 and, earlier, around the border town of Khost -
his speciality was logistics.
>From his base in the Pakistani city of Peshawar, he
used his experience of the construction trade, and his
money, to build a series of bases where the mujahideen
could be trained by their Pakistani, American and, if
some recent press reports are to be believed, British
advisers.
One of the camps bin Laden built, known as Al-Badr,
was the target of the American missile strikes against
him last summer. Now it is used by
Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, a Pakistan-based organisation
that trains volunteers to fight in Kashmir.
Some of their recruits kidnapped and almost certainly
killed a group of Western hostages a few years ago.
The bases are still full of new volunteers, many
Pakistanis. Most of those who were killed in last
August's strikes were Pakistani.
A Harkut-ul-Mujahideen official said last week that it
had Germans and Britons fighting for the cause, as
well as Egyptians, Palestinians and Saudis. Muslims
from the West as well as from the Middle East and
North Africa are regularly stopped by Pakistani police
on the road up the Khyber Pass heading for the camps.
Hundreds get through. Afghan veterans have now joined
bin Laden's al-Qaeda group.
Some have returned to former battlegrounds, like the
university-educated Dr Ayman al-Zawahiri, a key figure
in the Egyptian al-Jihad terrorist group. Al-Zawahiri
ran his own operation during the Afghan war, bringing
in and training volunteers from the Middle East. Some
of the $500 million the CIA poured into Afghanistan
reached his group. Al-Zawahiri has become a close aide
of bin Laden and has now returned to Afghanistan to
work with him. His al-Jihad group has been linked to
the Yemeni kidnappers.
One Saudi journalist who interviewed bin Laden in 1989
remembers three of his close associates going under
the names of Abu Mohammed, Abu Hafz and Abu Ahmed. All
three fought with bin Laden in the early Eighties,
travelled with him to the Sudan and have come back to
Afghanistan. Afghan veterans, believed to include men
who fought the Americans in Somalia, have also
returned.
Other members of al-Quaeda remain overseas. Afghan
veterans now linked to bin Laden have been traced by
investigators to Pakistan, East Africa, Albania,
Chechnya, Algeria, France, the US and Britain.
At least one of the kidnappers in Yemen was reported
to have fought in Afghanistan and to be linked to
al-Quaeda. Despite reports that bin Laden was
effectively funded by the Americans, it is impossible
to gauge how much American aid he received. He was not
a major figure in the Afghan war. Most American
weapons, including Stinger anti-aircraft missiles,
were channelled by the Pakistanis to the Hezb-i-Islami
faction of the mujahideen led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.
Bin Laden was only loosely connected with the group,
serving under another Hezb-i-Islami commander known as
Engineer Machmud. However, bin Laden's Office of
Services, set up to recruit overseas for the war,
received some US cash.
But according to one American official, concentrating
on bin Laden is a mistake. 'The point is not the
individuals,' he said last week. 'The point is that we
created a whole cadre of trained and motivated people
who turned against us. It's a classic Frankenstein's
monster situation.'
Others point out that the military contribution of the
'Arabs', as the overseas volunteers were known, was
relatively small. 'The fighting was done by the
Afghans and most of them went back to their fields
when Kabul fell to the mujahideen,' said Kamaal Khan,
a Pakistani defence analyst. 'Ironically, the bulk of
American aid went to the least effective fighters, who
turned most strongly to bite the hand that fed them.'
---
Questa lista e' curata da componenti del
Coordinamento Nazionale per la Jugoslavia (CNJ).
I documenti distribuiti non rispecchiano necessariamente
le posizioni ufficiali o condivise da tutto il CNJ, ma
vengono fatti circolare per il loro contenuto informativo al
solo scopo di segnalazione e commento ("for fair use only").
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